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MH-17 in the Donbas: questions without answers. Who benefits? Will there be a Third World War? Reward $210
Created by Flashwind, 441 days ago, 1843 views

MH-17 in the Donbas: questions without answers.
Yugoslavia...
Iraq...
Libya..
Syria...
Who benefits?
It is a war.
Will there be a Third World War?
Who benefits?
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aliasadullah441 days ago

The developed countries use the people of un developed countries to gain their purposes to achieve their goals their main purpose is to occupy the resources that countries have...

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yogisugandi25441 days ago

US has supported democratic
movements as it believes that this is the best form of government. I’m not sure that you can attribute US/EU support as “instigating a coup d’etat.” Some Ukrainian people were fed up with their corrupt central government. Don’t give Washington all the credit/blame. The Ukrainian people deserve the lion’s share.

2. The early evidence, as Ms. Knight rightly points out, suggests that the plane was shot down by pro-Russian separatists in E. Ukraine.
Do a bit of background on these early “separatists” and one might easily conclude their guilt.

3. Again, early evidence points directly at the separatists.

4.By the time they finish their report, the guilty will have gotten away with
murder. Justice delayed is justice denied.

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Flashwind441 days ago

@yogisugandi25
"US has supported democratic
movements as it believes that this is the best form of government." (???!!!..)

Amazing reasoning!
I suspect that this conclusion is copied from the headers of the press and TV..,or based on the materials of press conference of the state Department. I'd like to read opinions based on personal logical conclusions - it seems to me more valuable.

"Again, early evidence points directly at the separatists."

Proof?!
Bring at least one valid proof except speculation.
I see no evidence. All described vaguely and multiplies doubts and distrust of the "investigation" - I don't see an independent investigation.

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Flashwind441 days ago

@aliasadullah
Do you believe in the role and effectiveness of the UN?

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Flashwind441 days ago

Friends!
I would not ask this question if I didn't have doubts.
After all, I am very afraid of what the Third World War will enter into the hot phase and trends for this turn of events I see.
And you see?
If "Yes", can it be avoided and how?

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ruji55440 days ago

@yogisugandi25
Да

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ruji55440 days ago

@Flashwind
Нет

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chaika439 days ago

3 WW allready run , benefits of all that is USA , MH 17 was targetting by Ukrainian millitary .

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meloman1949438 days ago

С Боингом всё ясно. Обыкновенная провокация, направленная в сторону России, представляя её в мировом сообществе,как страну -- агрессор. Делалось это для того, чтобы возмущённые граждане охотно записывались на защиту Киева от агрессора,так как регулярные войска посылать нельзя. Расследование так и будет затягиваться до тех пор, пока улики случайным образом исчезнут -- возможно произойдёт пожар, или ещё что-нибудь,чтобы объявить о невозможности дальнейшего выявления виновника,но обвинение России,как страны агрессора так и останется в мыслях множества обманутых СМИ граждан. Войны так и будут продолжаться локально. 3-й Мировой пока не предвидится. Цель этих войн -- избавиться от безработных граждан внутри страны,так как это опасно,для "толстосумов".Богатенькие не хотят умирать при своих богатствах,нажитых за счёт заниженной оплаты труда рабочих.Они очень хотят жить и продолжать обогащаться за счёт изготовления и поставки оружия в очаги конфликтов. А что они ещё могут туда доставлять? Одежду, питание? -- это всё производится внутри стран. Руководство США отлично понимает,сколько природных ресурсов,находиться на обширной территории России и всячески стараются препятствовать России увеличивать свою долю в мировом рынке. А без увеличения этой доли -- становиться бессмысленным наращивать добычу ресурсов. Жадность олигархов и их борьба между собой,отражаясь на падении благосостояния народа -- постоянно вызывают волны возмущения действиями правительства стран. Что мы наблюдаем-- регулярно. А так же наблюдаем и то, что "пролетарии" набирают силу против олигархов, пополняя ряды партий и общественных движений.Так что,холодная экономическая война олигархов продолжиться, но 3-я Мировая -- не предвидится в ближайшее время.

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Yuri438 days ago

Как бы русские не изворачивались, но, скорей всего неумышленно, боинг сбыла РФ, и это оспаривает, при таком количестве доказательств, только тот, у кого совсем нету совести. А войне , скорей всего быть и нужна она Путину и его окружению, потому, что только на неё он сможет списать свои промахи, как в политических, так и в экономических решениях.

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Flashwind438 days ago

@Yuri
INDICATE IRREFUTABLE EVIDENCE FOR INVESTIGATORS MORONS IN THE NETHERLANDS, THE USA AND THE EUROPEAN UNION.. THEY WILL BE INSANELY HAPPY!
...and Ukraine will again jump...
WHERE IS THE EVIDENCE OF RUSSIAN GUILT?
Where the testimony of the controllers at the mission control Ukraine that gave the pilots of the team and where are these managers now?
Where are the pictures taken by satellite of the US and why are they so "secret"?
That blew up in Finland and the rest of it too secret?...
Dance,ladies and gentlemen! But I'm with you don't want to dance! Dancing for idiots is over and the World wants to stay alive and not go along with you crazy. The world does not want Third World War to wait for the end on the island in a Large Puddle and save yourself no one can.
...but the dance is not forbidden, if not you ordered the music.

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Flashwind438 days ago

Ladies and gentlemen!
Friends!
I beg you to leave the propaganda behind our ship.
I really want to give the prize to someone of you.
Your answer should not be obliged to coincide with my opinion (otherwise why ask such questions?), but your answer needs to match the logic of your argument, not to be a Chimera of lies of the press, media and stupid politicians.
With respect and love to you!

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Yuri438 days ago

Flashwind чтобы понять кто сбил боинг не нужно фотографий из спутника, достаточно проследить за сми России, и все станет понятно. Вот ссылка на такое расследование: http://obozrevatel.com/crime/87301-nemtsov-ulichil-putina-vo-lzhi-o-sbitom-boeing-777.htm

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Flashwind437 days ago

@Yuri
Your link is fake. You do not watch out and targeting trends . This demonstrates your bias, but to understand this is not the subject of my question.
Do you think that these talkers and tricksters have credibility among serious audience?
Ukraine has no interest. Everything is clear, although most do not even know where this area is. Including the U.S. Department of state.
..By the way! I suggest you think about the fate of Boris Nemtsov....

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Crazycatlady437 days ago

@Flashwind
WW3 started back in the 1970's when jimmy carter turned his back on the Shah of Iran it will end sometime before the end of this century when the human race becomes extinct.
The human race is an arrogant, petty, violent and bent on self destruction and that day is very very close.

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Flashwind437 days ago

@Crazycatlady
I agree with you.
Moreover, I can say that the world is constantly in a state of war varying territories and countries, forms and methods, but the goals are not changed since Biblical times.
The war never ends.
I personally have one of many, but the paradoxical desire: I want people one day forgot the word and concept of "peace"
Exactly!
He who does not know the word "peace", the meaning of this word - he does not know the concept, meaning and significance of the word "war".
Of course, this is utopia and like any utopia is a cherished goal of mankind. But any utopia is nonsense...
The war in our real time shrunk like shagreen leather with a goal of dirty bloodstain spread across the planet.
"Hot war" is suicide. That's because a global war has taken root in the information field and kills the immature consciousness of the mind of some people. Kill and maim with great success - a lie has powerful resources and in large quantity. Lies dodgy and insidiously convincing only for the reason, not to be heard by the alternative view.
"Hot war" is suicide. But the hot fires of war have spread across the planet and that the flames took the life of millions of people, many deprived mind.
I really want to believe in a better outcome, but every day my Faith gives way to Doubt.
It is because my Glavny Question is - will there be a Third World War with the use of lethal weapons? will do humanity a suicide?
If I knew the exact answer and was sure I wouldn't have asked this question.
With dirty media technologies, people lose their minds and I very much fear that there are insane (and they are!) going to destroy the world in the fire of a Third World war...

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Aravi436 days ago

Hi @Flashwind

1) Russia have many ememy countries, many opposotion supprates group. This can be the act of any one. Without proper proof we can't point any one.

2) Due to the current sutiuvation it is belived to be conducted by separatists in Ukrainian conducted the strick. But this is a terroist attack, so Ukrainian goverment can't be blamed without proper evidance.

3) According to me it is a pointless argument who is benificial of the attack. Because all enemy nation got some direct or indirect benifits.

4) I don't have doubt that UN is week, but not inefficient. Because the nation involved directly in cold war can use their veot power to shut UN's mouth.If UN was ineffective, we would have faced nuclear war soon after 2 world war. I hope all will know why so.

5) About World war 3, this is a minor action in current day cold war senario. We predict Russian to find the real attacker soon and give reply in their own style.

6) If a world war starts, It will end in nuclear war only. Thi is because, all the major nation that can take part in war is nuclear armed. No one will accept to leave their complete country in enemy's hand. It will be eressing huge portion of earth. After which, not only human race but also other living organism in earth, will get errased after few years. This will be due to radiotion emition from nuclear bomb. So the result will be not only the fighting nation, but also the middle countries will die due to the collapse of earth's eco system.

Regardds,

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aliasadullah436 days ago

@Flashwind
NO i believe that UN is not working properly for the peace of the world,
there are many reasons like Kashmir dispute
the membership of Nuclear group for Pakistan
Palestine
and other disputed areas
because the power is in the hands of developed countries like US..

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aldem53434 days ago

Нет не будет. Все хотят жить. Региональные конфликты будут.

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Flashwind433 days ago

@aldem53
I would like to believe it...
But,if you remember the story,all the world wars started with "trivia".
The war will be repeated until then, until it will be decided not by those who die on the battlefield







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Flashwind433 days ago

"The world is dangerous not because some people do evil, but because some see it and do nothing." - Albert Einstein

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Azait430 days ago

@Flashwind
I'm from Ukraine, I recommend you to listen to me it is beneficial to the Ukrainian authorities in order to attract other countries to the war in the Donbass, Russia is unprofitable. This is my opinion

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chaika430 days ago

like I answered later - Benefits of Siriy , libiy, Emen , Egypt ,Yugoslaviya , Ukraine , Bahrein IS USA(NWO - NEW WORLD ODER) and they allmost finish it , I think the first their goal is manipulation of people mind all over the world(how people react in one country on news,information & how in other country & what to do to change it).Its will be wery dengerous future of Siriy(because they need to collaps that country).And of all that will finish when tehy can pronounce new over-world country with one goverment , military & religeos in Jerusalem.

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Alirio429 days ago

Sad to say, but money rules the world. Follow the money you will find the people to blame. Ironically business is a powerful army to maintain peace.

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TonyW50429 days ago

Well, since Big Bankers and the Military/Industrial Complex control most of American politics, it's really up to them. Grandpa Bush funded Hitler before World War 2. I would say that we are already in a 3rd World War, since so many countries are having conflicts and, as usual, the U.S. and Russia blunder their way in, trying to gain status in these war torn regions. I sincerely hope it doesn't escalate. The military ran 10 computer simulations in a war with China. The U.S. lost all 10. Our military power, while still formidable, isn't nearly what it was before. But our government is adept at using false flags operations, and our media is nothing but propaganda. They choose a side, Democrat or Republican, and then play against each other when in reality the one's pulling the strings are behind stage, and this is nothing but a game to them. When you go on the internet and watch Independent News you see an entirely different story. I do believe something is about to happen, because of the 800 plus FEMA camps that have been built across America and the Executive Orders signed by Obama, entitling him to call Martial Law and seize assets including food and water from citizens for the government. All those preppers, you can bet you will be first on the list. I believe it's going to be a financial collapse, because our Fiat Currency, or fake money, is a system that hasn't worked once in the history of the world (and it's been tried thousands of times). It always ends in abject failure. Imagine life in America when the food benefits, Social Security, and other entitlement programs cease to exist. Perhaps this is the reason 140,000 UN Troops have been deployed inside America, learning our weapons systems and language? If you don't believe 9/11 was the ultimate false flag operation, consider this...the exact area of the Pentagon that was hit by a cruise missile (it wasn't an airplane folks, where are the seats, the luggage, the engines?) just happened to be the office of accounting that was trying to find the missing trillion plus dollars that Rumsfeld stated publicly was missing (and he had no clue where it went, yeah, right). Add to that the multi-billion dollar NESARA Funding bill, passed by Congress in late 2000, was supposed to repay farmers and then citizens for illegal taxes and fees. The exact date and time of it's roll out, drum roll please...was September 11th 2001 at 10 a.m. E.S.T. Bush Sr. supposedly told his buddies in the C.I.A. that he wanted that money, to figure out something. The mainframe where the accounts were stored was in one of the Trade Center buildings. Plus, we owed the Chinese a gold payment in excess of a billion dollars, which got put aside as we were attacked by the big bad wolf. So many died trying to expose the secret, now that it's out, people refuse to believe. Then we have Bin Laden, supposedly killed by Navy Seal team 6. Did any of you know just a week or two after the supposed raid that killed Bin Laden (who actually died years before in a hospital due to his kidney and liver issues) that over 20 members of that same team died in a mysterious twin helicopter crash? See, Obama needed a win, so they sent them in and found out it wasn't even the right guy. So, nothing surprises me anymore in this country. When the citizens are being watched more closely than our supposed enemies, then you know we no longer live in a free country. We gave that away with the Patriot Act. It's a long death march to their New World Order. Eisenhower warned the people in his farewell address to beware the power of the Military/Industrial complex. He wanted the truth about U.F.O.s and Majestic 12, set up by Truman, refused to give him the answers. He asked again, they denied again. The third time he said he would send in the First Army and arrest all of them, so they gave in and filled him in. After learning the full scope, he reportedly turned pale white. Since then, no President has had any real power. Kennedy tried to bring out the truth, and look at what happened. The thing is the vast majority of people in America are ignorant to the fact their already is a war going on inside our country. It's being fought by true Patriots against the Cabal, and underground bases have been destroyed, so the elite don't have anywhere to run when it hit's the fan. My best guess is it will start in Chicago, since many millionaires have fled already, and thousands of martial law signs were seen going into Chicago last year. America needs to get used to the fact that we are no longer the big bad dog on the block. China has prepared by buying massive amounts of gold and silver, and owns a majority of the mineral resources of the world. Russia is doing the same. China makes 10 year and 100 year plans, the U.S. can't even get Congress to pass a balanced budget amendment for 6 months.

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D_I_M_A_N58428 days ago

@Flashwind
Who benefits do not know, but it certainly is not beneficial to Russia and Ukraine!

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TonyW50428 days ago

Who benefits in war? Bankers and Arms Manufacturers, everybody else loses. It's time to drop the guns, the hate, and look in a mirror, fix our own problems, and then in a collective voice tell the 1% that owns the wealth NO MORE!!! It's time for their corruption and greed to end. It's actually happening, negotiations are going on with the Rothchild family to surrender, while the Rockefellers never will. There is much much more going on that I can't get into. My life has been threatened once publicly. I found out the real truth, and told everybody I could. Kill me, I don't care, I will not bow down to evil. I love all humans regardless of how they feel about me. I cry when I see Syrian citizens being forced out of their homes. When is enough enough? All it takes is a small movement of people to say NO MORE WAR, and then it gains momentum, and eventually things will change.

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vanny428 days ago

@Flashwind
третя свитова уже давно почалась ще на сходи украіни а провокатор росия путин як гитляр полиз там де нафта в сирию а так вин паскуда

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miyaso425 days ago

Вступив в гражданскую войну в Сирии в ранге прямого военного союзника президента Башара Асада, мы не должны напрочь испортить отношения с влиятельными суннитскими мусульманскими государствами, для которого шиит Асад — словно кость в горле. Извечное противостояние между двумя основными течениями в исламе — шиизмом и суннизмом — это не то, во что нам стоит вмешиваться.

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Flashwind425 days ago

@vanny
You are reading the thoughts of the Ukrainian TV!

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dmitermol415 days ago

Оно уже идёт.

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Flashwind414 days ago

@miyaso
It is your attitude to Russia's foreign policy.
In his question, I do not put as a response to decisions of foreign policy - the decision of similar questions is the work of diplomats.
Main question: will there be a Third World war in the hot phase?

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Flashwind414 days ago

@dmitermol
The war goes on for centuries and won't stop.
It is a war of the Three Worlds (at least).
But at the moment there is no hot phase after the Second World War.
Prerequisites for the Third World War is clearly there.
The question is whether and when the war starts?

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ha14414 days ago

@Flashwind

I guess all will benefit from the third world war, reduction of population number will cause prosperity and economical growth, rebuilding...populating...rebuilding for the next 50 years..then again a cycle of violence

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Flashwind413 days ago

@ha14
You hope to stay alive?

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ha14413 days ago

@Flashwind
I hope so :) Stay alive is my slogan :)

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ChessKing412 days ago

Обычный человеческий фактор.Ошибка которая вылезит России намного больше чем при той же Сирии ибо тут собралась достаточная доля цивилизивоного мира что будет копать до ниточки
до соломинки.

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Flashwind412 days ago

A vain hope. If you start a hot war you will be destroyed repeatedly. The fact you don't know? Obviously you were born before the Cuban missile crisis, and the press and TV have stripped the memory.


By the way! why are there still unsolved murder of John Kennedy?

Because those who killed him and now run the country.

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Flashwind412 days ago

@ChessKing
If Russia were weak, the United States would not be in a panic.
The reason for the tantrums of the United States in its inability to fight.
USA used to fight on foreign soil and someone else's hands.
USA only fights heroically on the screens of cinemas and TVs.
This is not my opinion.
USA are only capable of the dirty media war for which Europe and America will then be ashamed, but those who now write in the dirt can not be washed.

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Flashwind412 days ago

I try to be objective and your opinion may not coincide with my opinion. But your reasoning should be based on logic and evidence.

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n22412 days ago

@Flashwind
Войны не будет. Через год, два появятся новые центры силы. Сейчас просто идет дележка. Мир не может существовать своем нынешнем виде. И да, интересно кому нужно было переселение так называемых беженцев..

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jerry45410 days ago

No, but there will be conspiracies, assassinations, and more money schemes.We will simplify security even more as well.

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