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Created by faire32, 539 days ago, 1643 views

Why does the UK want to leave the European Union?

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atome539 days ago


English do not want this nationalized Europe, managed by officials.

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zukgod539 days ago

I don't know much about the situation admittedly, but I am assuming they don't want to be ruled by the rest of the wankers in the EU. Freedom from big government is a great thing in any country. This is their Boston Tea party moment in a very small scale no war sort of deal lol. Plus the EU is full of a bunch of whiny liberals who want to run a country on rainbows and puppy tears instead of real life work. Get away from the socialism that has brought them down, now start electing people to government and get some of the rights back that you gave away many years ago.

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Yuulinshi539 days ago

Wasn't it because they always wanted to be independant from the EU ? In France, they talk about the fact that they would want more commercial rights, things like that. But I don't really know ...

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sapungnua539 days ago

Because the EU is the beginning of a Dictatorship, joining together with the American Government and then becoming The New World Order, under the control of the Bankers and their puppet government leaders, it's a master plan constructed decades ago now being implemented against the people. Be Aware!!!!!

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srgtun539 days ago

Because they transfer a lot of money into EU as a member and don't get anything back, because it is all managed by germany. Another fact is that in EU all borders are opened for citizens of EU. Who would like to close his borders with incoming muslim wave. They also have their strong currency which is stronger than euro.

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pustoi11539 days ago

They want to decide questions relating to their country. without the interference of other countries. perfectly sensible idea. but for the European Union is the beginning of the end ...

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yangjikai539 days ago

http://forex.cngold.org/school/c4192094.html

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nihal29539 days ago

@faire32 , Britain existed from EU because they have limitations in controlling there country means they can make laws but need confermation from EU . EU have many laws regarding international trading in European country. = https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ac/Political_System_of_the_European_Union.svg
regards

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Aravi539 days ago

Hi @faire32
The UK dose not reviled the full details that why it want to leave Europe Union. Their are four key objectives are:

Economic governance: Securing an explicit recognition that the euro is not the only currency of the European Union, to ensure countries outside the eurozone are not materially disadvantaged. The UK wants safeguards that steps to further financial union cannot be imposed on non-eurozone members and the UK will not have to contribute to eurozone bailouts

Competitiveness: Setting a target for the reduction of the "burden" of excessive regulation and extending the single market

Immigration: Restricting access to in-work and out-of-work benefits to EU migrants. Specifically, ministers want to stop those coming to the UK from claiming certain benefits until they have been resident for four years. Ministers have reportedly been warned by the UK's top civil servant this could be discriminatory and any limits may be reduced to less than a year. An option of an "emergency brake" to stop the payments for four years is being discussed as a compromise deal

Sovereignty: Allowing Britain to opt out from the EU's founding ambition to forge an "ever closer union" of the peoples of Europe so it will not be drawn into further political integration. Giving greater powers to national parliaments to block EU legislation.

Regards,

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jabbary539 days ago

British politics has always included a faction that's skeptical of deeper integration with the rest of Europe. This faction has grown stronger in recent years as the EU has struggled with the aftermath of the 2008 financial crisis.

Britain joined the European Economic Community in 1973 and hence the EU in the 1990s. But Britain never fully accepted the legitimacy of European control over British institutions in a way that other EU members did. It refused, for example, to join either the Schengen Area, which eliminates internal border controls, or the common currency.

Since 2008, Britain's background euroskepticism has been amplified by the poor performance of European economies.

The post-2008 recession was bad in the United States, but it was really bad in the euro area. The eurozone took a greater hit than the US did initially, and then quickly collapsed back into recession rather than experiencing a continued recovery:


There are a number of reasons why this is true, including several EU nations' embrace of austerity. But one of the biggest, if not the biggest, cause was the euro itself.
Central banks are supposed to react to recessions by expanding the money supply in order to promote economic activity. The 2008 financial crisis caught central banks flat-footed both in the United States and Europe. But America's central bank, the Federal Reserve, ultimately responded forcefully to the economic downturn, helping to get the economy growing again starting in 2010.

In contrast, the ECB decided to raise interest rates — a contractionary policy — in 2011. The result: While the US economy started to heal, the eurozone tipped into a double-dip recession. Things got so bad, particularly in Greece, that it looked like the entire eurozone system could collapse.

This didn't affect the UK directly, as it uses the pound rather than the euro. But some Britons looked at the situation and decided that EU membership was dangerous. The EU had historically only expanded its powers, they worried. How long until Britain got roped into a euro-like disaster — or faced pressure to bail out countries whose economies were wrecked by bad eurozone economic policies?

This argument gave new potency to Britain's long-simmering euroskepticism. By mid-2012, after three years of the eurozone crisis with no real end in sight, Prime Minister David Cameron was under significant pressure from members of his own Conservative Party to hold a referendum on whether the UK should stay in. In January 2013, Cameron gave a speech promising to hold just such a referendum if the Tories won Britain's 2015 election.

They did, and then Conservative legislators passed a bill to hold a vote before December 2017. In February, Cameron scheduled the vote for June 23, 2016 — and here we are.

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Paffo539 days ago

They feel they have lost their soverenty and want control over their own fate. Also, they want to be able to control immigration which in the EU is controlled by others

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ha14539 days ago

@aire32

Little England go back to being Great Britain :)

if UK does not leave EU on 31st March 2017 it will become fully integrated.

Britain never fully accepted the legitimacy of European control over British institutions in a way that other EU members did. Britain would be better off out of this European Union of economic failure.

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Dipto538 days ago

@faire32 Please go thru this small article :

http://debatewise.org/debates/784-the-uk-should-leave-the-european-union

All your doubts should be clear.

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ralphfurgason538 days ago

@atome
For many reason they feel the U.N has let them down, but the main reason is frustration with the wave of migrants that are flooding into Europe because the insistance of the U.N

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Togekiss_4011538 days ago

Not sure, because I suck at studying history. I mean you could ask me about what gods are and how they relate to ETs but this isn't something I can't quite answer...

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upeukert538 days ago

Because you cannot trust such a complex and difficult decision to a general population of which the majority is not educated (!) or informed (!!!) enough to make the best decision in their own interest. The LEAVE campaign especially was purely appealing to National Pride, hate of all immigrants and foreigners, and "let's go back to the grand old times of the British Empire". Well, if you tell this some non-skilled, unemployed, frustrated worker in Wales or South England, guess what! Have a look how London (education, finance, low unemployment), Oxford or Cambridge (education), have voted over Boston (Lincolnshire, UK) and boroughs with high unemployment and deprived economics. "Times are tough for lots of families, wages remain low and unemployment high" => and for all of that it is so easy to blame the EU, Brussels or Berlin but not the Thatcherian/Neo-Smithonian cut throat capitalism and its excesses in the financial markets (e.g. LSE and Wall Street). No, the EU is to blame - easy and sweet as pie!

There is some good information on the internet if somebody really wants to understand what happened last Thursday (and that information is provided by an icon of "objective journalism", that I frequently consult amongst other European Media while living in the US!):

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-36616028
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36616747

Well, it is a political disaster, and it can easily lead to more fascist ideas entering the general public (not only) in England and Wales, not so much in Scotland and Northern Ireland (except for Belfast City). People seem to take a peaceful period in Europe of nearly 70 years for granted and they have forgotten the reason for the foundation of a European Union - it was to keep the PEACE and not primarily to help the economy (that was clearly secondary and hardly anybody is happy with the common currency, but the British even didn't have that handicap. They were smart and kept their Sterling!). Let's hope that the British will not use the grand old trick when a country falls apart and is in severe economic depression - blaming a third party (here, maybe Europe, Brussels, Berlin - those targets of hatred that have already been blamed for all bad things for the past 20 years!) that can be hated and to stage a WAR against them. Some people have clearly started using that method during the campaign, flying Spitfires (Yeah, we have beaten the hell out the Luftwaffe before!) and comparing political opponents to Adolf Hitler. Very dangerous play with fire!!!

And, the current turbulence around the Sterling and the markets is of course created by the traders themselves. Objectively there is absolutely no reason for panic. With all respect, the UK or GB is economically not really that important! The loss is a political one, and without being pathetic, world peace is just one bit more threatened. This constellation of separation, more and new walls (Trump), exaggerated Nationalism/Patriotism, lack of respect and empathy for neighbors and fellow humans, egoism, protectionism, xenophobia, claims of superiority (Rule Britannia? What, who, why?) is dangerous and should remind everybody who has learned just a bit of history of the ramp up to both World Wars, but especially WWII.

Good luck to all of us, and if anybody thought the Brexit was not to come because it would be "insane", think twice about the next biggest issue "will Trump become the next president of the US?". Think again, and watch out. You can always score with steering the emotions of hatred and genuine superiority. Tell the people they are the greatest and they need to rule the world. Fascists did and obviously do exactly the same thing all over again. It seems to be so simple....

The Brexit is NOT the end of the world! Britain has not embraced and been trying to just exploit the EU for the past 20+ years, so what is new? At least they cannot take advantage of the single market and all of those free trade agreements between the EU and 26 other countries any more. However, thank you to the 50% of the UK population that made a clear statement of being willing to be Europeans! Thank you folks and see you on neutral grounds. For the near future i will personally avoid traveling to that island by all means (your bad!), since I certainly don't feel welcomed. I happen to proudly carry a EU passport.... Pity though, I like(d) London, the English language, the distinct culture, numerous British friends, and the wicked British sense of humor. Goodbye Mr. Bean, I will miss you!!!

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maren538 days ago

When GB with their 53 countries of Commonwealth leave EU, who will cry?
Why Switzerland and Norway is not part of EU, and don't forget, this is two very rich country.
Maybe don't will be rich if will became part of EU.

Did you know how much cost Parlament of EU? And other EU shit?

I just wanna add something in my comment:

What you think about GB pound, this can negative reflect on pound?
DEAM, NOT!!! WHY? Because British pound have extraordinary big gold support.
Other money such as dollar or emu's EURO don't have this golden protection.

This is also god shield for British economy. Nobody can change rating British economy and down this for nothing.
I also will remember you on words one big jurnallst, who said in 1957 to British prime minister : I WILL FOLLOW YOU IN EVERYTHING, BUT DON'T ASK FROM ME
TO FOLLOW YOU IN THIS AMERICAN PROJECT CALLED EUROPEAN UNION CREATED FOR MAKING STRONG AND BIG GERMANY... (end of quote) - END WHAT HAPPENED?
GREAT GERMANY, FOUR REICH RAISED BORN IN EU. GERMANY WAS EMPIRE, STRONGEST, RICHEST COUNTRY IN WHOLE EU.
How many times Germany asked to become Permanent member of comity of security UN ?
Jurnalist was right. This project don't help to Europe at all. EU start to crack. Other countries also wanna leave EU, in many countries exist problems type BASKY, IRELAND, SCOTLAND,GIBRALTAR,
KOSOVO, KRIM, KRIT, ETC, ETC....

Again, do you see any reason why should be countries like Switzerland, Norway, or any other countries become part of EU where exist one global political parasite in mode of parliament EU.
This Parliament is very expensive for each country. Why pay this? Or other common costs?
Gain from EU is smaller than given to EU, so why race to become member of dying monster?





Congratulations for Brexit

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ryanaxis538 days ago

hi faire32:)

because they love to restore there sovereignty.




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faire32537 days ago

@ha14
Little England go back to being Great Britain.
Let's wait and see.

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Hasic007537 days ago

Protože už má dost evropské byrokracie. Chce být suverenním státem.

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darrell537 days ago

immigration reaching breaking point...... Uncapped migration of workforce between european union members, overwhich 'Britain is not able to make its own laws or controls ' due to the European Union Membership
Losing control of setting british rules/laws/quotas, to 'brussels'
Amount of british money being sent to the EU (£350m/day was the amount quoted by Nigel Farage)

A couple of 'sour grapes' points,

If the entire electorate had voted, i believe the remain vote would have held the majority.
A lot of on-the-fence LEAVE voters felt remorse following the referendum results to actually LEAVE the European Union. Furious Leave voters want to change their decision because they didn't think UK would actually leave
The entire campaign and media coverage seemed to focus entirely on immigration, and not on the longstanding economic ramifications of so called 'BREXIT' (which admitedly neither side seemed to commit to a prediction)... Leaving a "throwing the baby out with the bathwater" effect.
As a general observation, although media was generally 'pro remain', there didnt seem to be any passionate or extrordinarily convincing leadership or case for the REMAIN case, not so for the LEAVE campaign which had been building up fervour and momentum for months and months

I do hope we as a nation have made the right choice in the long run, the Brexit proponents seem to have such strong views, which are hopefully founded upon common sense and intelligence, rather than just passion and bias.
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Onne Vegter
Onne Vegter, Lived and worked in the UK
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Because young people in Britain did not turn out to vote in the same numbers that older people did. Polls showed that most older people supported the leave campaign, and were also firmly intent on voting (81% of over 55’s indicated they would most definitely go and vote, compared to only 52% of those under 35 years old).

So in short, the young people allowed the older generation to decide their future for them but not turning out to vote. Apathy cost them their EU membership.

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The lesson here? Every vote counts! Don’t sit at home instead of voting!
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Issac Fung
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Britain left the EU after a historic referendum resulted in 52% Leave, 48% Remain. Some people voted leave because they wanted more money back to public services, limit immigration, and increase national sovereignty.

Here are the following advantages and disadvantages of Brexit

Advantages

Increased national sovereignty- Britain is now ruled by its own laws, passed and approved by Parliament, of which its members were democratically elected by the British people. This is good as this means people are ruled by the laws that their representatives approve. The unelected European Commission can't do a thing now, and the UK does not have to comply with European law, which formerly trumped UK law (eg Uk law ignored after Spanish fishermen complained about ship registration). In addition, it is more democratic now, as Britain is no longer governed by members of other countries and unelected officials.
They are not giving money to the EU- Moderate Leave voters would claim that the UK is still giving £125m, even after the cash rebate Thatcher got us. This means that we have more money for public services
It's good for the economy- Firstly, the U.K. has cut its ties from a failing Eurozone. Secondly, the UK can now opt out of economic regulations, especially when regarding fishing and agriculture. Thirdly, the U.K. now has the freedom to make free trade deals with other countries, like China and India. This all means that the UK economy is unschackel doing, and the government and the private sector is free to do what they want.

Disadvantages

It’s bad for the economy- In the short term, and things are already happening. The pound has dropped to 1985 levels, the stock market has crashed, and people are finding out that every commodity, from bread to milk, will be more expensive. In the long term, things are even worse. About 50% of British exports go to the EU. More than half of British imports comes from the EU. Now that the UK has left, it will be far more expensive to trade, hurting both groups. Worst case scenario, if the UK does not negotiate with the EU a trade deal in two years, then they will have to subscribe to WTO rules. As a result, profits decrease, firms are out out of business by increasing costs, and unemployment will rise. Big companies, like car manufacturing, are likely to leave the Uk for more business friendly Europe. The CBI has estimated 950,000 jobs were directly related to the EU. In addition, the free trade deals Britain wants won't happen, as now it's a place of risk, uncertainty and bad investment. The U.K. was once the prime country to have access to Europe. Would China really want to make a great trade deal with the U.K. now that's it's lost a sizeable portion of its economic power?
Sovereignty without influence - North Korea is sovereign as it rules itself. Is this necessarily a good thing? The U.K. may be more sovereign, but it's lost its voice internationally. After leaving the EU, the UK is no longer part of one of the most powerful blocs in the world. Britain may be more sovereign, but it is more isolated and has lost a lot of its negotiating power and prestige, something which will prove far more important.
Geopolitics and global security - Russia was only stopped from further flexing its muscles in Eastern Europe because a (relatively) unified EU stepped in and imposed sanctions. Now that the Uk is gone, the EU is weakened, and Russia will become more dominant in Eurasia. The U.K. will also find it harder to cooperate with the EU to catch criminals and issue arrest warrants.
Collapse of the United Kingdom- Scotland may now leave after a planned referendum in 2018. If this is so, then Brexit is the thing which has finally broken up the Union. What a disaster.

I think Brexit is really bad for Britain. It has fragmented European unity and sparked off further extreme, radical and petty right wing agendas across Europe. The integrity of the U.K. is at risk with Scotland leaving. The U.K. has lost a lot of its influence abroad, and now faces a sharp decline in the economy short term. In the long term, Europe, the U.K., and the world, is weaker for it.
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Carlos Gibson-Foy
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I voted to leave.

I was given not one good reason to stay.

The Eu offers the UK nothing but a trading pact but the cost of that trading pack is our freedom. Too high a price to pay.

Having two layers of politicians, UK and Brussels, making laws is ridiculous. Stealth laws from the EU to curb the extremes of UK politicians is ridiculous. Vote in better politicians in the UK to make laws UK residents want.

UK concerns and wishes have been ignored for decades by the EU.

Rather than address the issues that UK citizens have with the EU, EU politicians threatened us and derided us. That is indicative of a broken and abusive relationship. Always leave abusive relationships.

The EU was originally the common market… A trading organisation. Its current form as a law giving organisation heading towards a federal state was never voted upon and never part of the agreement. I do not want a federation.

Diversity and culture is real and has value and needs to be respected. Swamping cultures with other cultures as if the original culture was nothing and justifying it by calling it multicultural and vilifying anybody who disagrees by calling them racist is offensive in the extreme. Take pride in your culture and respect the culture of others.

With all this in mind, I voted to leave.

I would have voted for a strictly trading organisation as was originally intended.

As for young people, well a common idea is that of world citizenship. This is a nice idea but in actuality a nonsense as people do not function that way. People put themselves, their families and their friend’s interests first and therefore are not world citizens.

Furthermore, world citizenship requires resources and while 1% of the population hold onto 90% of resources it is impossible. The system is broken and the EU is part of that system.

The stay vote was ostensibly a fear vote. Fear of leaving rather than a true desire to stay.
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Jimmy O'brien
Jimmy O'brien
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Few reasons

Sovereignty - EU can overrule many decision of UK and has many rules and regulations which many here in UK see (justifiably) as ridiculous, such as the common agricultural policy.

Immigration - EU allows movement of people within without a visa to get work. Many see this as taking British jobs, also immigrants and their families take up many services leaving school places and housing etc. at breaking point.

Unelected bureucats in Brussels also make many decisions regarding UK because we re within EU many unhappy with this.

Also for a long time the the UK has seen and perceived (rightly or wrongly) that the UK gets less out of the EU than than we put in, thus to leave.

I should also add that when the UK joined the EEC in 1973 we were joining a common market and not a political union - this has led to the change in such an opinion now.

As for why we had a referendum it was largely because David Cameron had to promise one after the UKIP made large poll leads from defecting conservative voters, thus the referendum was a ploy to stop voters defecting and in return DC promised a referendum on UK membership of EU if they were still in power after the 2015 election
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zch098533 days ago

Hi @faire32
Britain voted Thursday to leave the European Union, a decision that surprised many and one whose consequences still aren’t totally clear. We don’t know quite yet what this will mean for the future of Britain’s economy, its policies, and its relations with other European countries.

There have been many twists and turns in British politics that have led to this particular moment. But you don’t necessarily need to have followed those to understand why the British want to leave the European Union, and why the EU matters in the first place.


Why does the European Union exist, anyway?

Europe is a collection of countries that used to fight a lot. For example, in World War II countries within Europe fought against one another, and it greatly hurt the continent.


So after WWII, many countries felt it was important to integrate European countries — starting with the coal and steel industries and then expanding to a broader set of trade issues.

Countries often make rules about things coming into their countries. For example, if you wanted to make a car in France and ship it to Britain, you would have to pay a tariff to Britain to do so.


Or let's say you're French and you wanted to live and work in Britain. You would have to go through a long immigration process to legally do so.


Western Europe has dozens of countries, each with its own trade, immigration, and economic policies. Trying to navigate these rules was very inefficient. The European Union essentially started from a question: What if each country had the same rules? What if all the barriers came down?

And that’s what the EU did.


Almost every Western European country joined the group to merge their economic rules in 1993. They did this by allowing people, goods, services, and capital to move freely between member countries. It's kind of like how states in the US work.

The EU has helped foster long periods of economic prosperity, and it's helped keep the region at peace.

There are challenges to cooperation. When something bad happens, it affects everyone.

The appealing part of the EU was that it made it easier for European countries to share in one another’s prosperity. But, as with any union, cooperation means weathering downturns together — and that hasn’t always been so easy.

Take, for example, the 2008 financial crisis. Many economists agree that the European Central Bank failed to respond effectively, leading to a recession that was much more severe than it needed to be. Unemployment rose, and tax revenue fell. Banks needed bailouts, and debt in a number of EU countries soared.

Seeing the EU in such crisis made some have second thoughts about being yoked to it — and increased worry among wealthy countries (like the UK) that they might have to help bail out less wealthy countries down the line.


And some Brits didn't like that many foreigners were moving to Britain after the EU was formed

The new European Union made it much easier for citizens of one country to migrate to another. And Britain’s foreign-born population skyrocketed after it joined.


Experts see two main forces driving this trend:

The EU expanded to include post-communist countries in the mid-2000s, and people in those countries were poorer. Many of their citizens immigrated to wealthier countries — like the United Kingdom.
The 2008 market crash hit some European countries especially hard. When people from those countries couldn’t find a job at home, their citizens went to find jobs in other countries — like the United Kingdom.
As my colleague Zack Beauchamp writes, "The British labor market was relatively easy to break into, and lots of people across Europe speak English, so it was a natural target for these Southern Europeans."


Tensions over immigration have risen significantly in Britain in recent years

Twenty years ago, barely anyone thought immigration or race relations was one of the country’s most important issues.

Times have changed.

In a survey conducted last year, 45 percent of Brits identified "immigration/race relations" as a top issue facing the country.


Seventy-seven percent of Brits today believe that immigration levels into the country should be reduced.

Last year, British Prime Minister David Cameron announced a referendum on whether Britain should remain in the European Union.

That’s Brexit, the vote that happened yesterday.

And by a slim margin, the British voted to leave the European Union.


This is causing a lot of chaos in Britain; nobody fully knows what will happen next.

Cameron announced his resignation because he was against leaving the EU, and he believes the country should have a leader who wants to take Britain in the direction voters have chosen. The vote doesn’t necessarily bind Britain to leaving the EU, but it likely will, because defying the will of the people would be politically bad.

Untangling from the EU would be a long, painful process

The UK and the EU have two years to figure out the terms of the exit — what rules would still apply to Britain and what privileges Britain would still get.

If there isn't some kind of deal that softens the blow — that lets Britain continue to take advantage of at least some of the European Union cooperations the country previously enjoyed — it'll be ugly.

Economist Jacob Funk Kirkegaard told my colleague Timothy B. Lee that right now UK carmakers can pretty safely assume they can sell their cars in any EU country, because everyone has the same standards. But if there is no agreement, selling that car across the EU could become a lot more complicated.


And this wouldn’t be just about cars — pharmaceutical products, technology, food, or anything else Britain produces could lose its easy entry into other European countries.

It will be tougher for people to move across borders

About 1.2 million Brits currently live in other EU countries. Right now they are able work in these other countries without much hassle. That would change.


There is a possible scenario in which Britain gets to keep its economic agreements in place

One idea is for the British to make a deal with the EU that lets them keep their economic privileges, kind of like Norway. But as my colleagues point out, the EU might not be in a forgiving mood, given that Britain just voted to leave. And this agreement still wouldn't help the British get out from EU regulation.


What are the greater implications?

The EU made trade with Europe much easier for the US, and it also made it easier to ask Europe for geopolitical help. Instead of talking to dozens of different countries, American officials could go to the EU and negotiate with a large chunk of the continent.


Now Britain may not be part of that discussion.


Britain’s departure could have ripple effects throughout Europe, too.

"Poor economic performance and inconsistent handling of the migration crisis have driven majorities in many countries — including France and Spain — to say they’d like a UK-style chance to vote on quitting the EU," my colleague Matt Yglesias wrote earlier today.

Britain’s vote is a big deal. But it could be the start of something bigger, too. This might be the first of many political expressions of discontent among EU countries, potentially causing the disintegration of Europe.

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DSG_UA532 days ago

The referendum is a vivid example of the fact that economic issues can not be solved by voting. Nobody arranges referenda on problems of nuclear physics or medicine. The economy is not less complicated science, but the decision is made by voting. The result: pound dangles at the bottom of the abyss, etc.

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Tankkiller532 days ago

I have heard that they want to leave because they want to be free like America, if you want to make it short and simple.





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pustoi11531 days ago

UK for many reasons, has always occupied a special role in the EU. Personally, I associate mainly with the mentality of the British, which was formed on the basis of geographical location. Britain - a huge island, which on the one hand as if in Europe, and on the other - as if not. Therefore, Britain has always been deeply immersed in European affairs, but tried to keep a distance with other European monarchies. For the UK, the idea is to give up part of their sovereignty and transfer it to the supranational level - this is a very difficult decision. The more difficult part of the transfer of sovereignty the organization, which was created without the participation of Britain and not the British rules. In January 1960, the United Kingdom and all decided to create their integration group without the participation of the main European countries: was created EFTA (European Free Trade Association), which, apart from the UK, entered Austria, Switzerland, Portugal and all the Scandinavian countries. Later, in London, acknowledged that the integration grouping in Europe without the participation of France, Germany and Italy - a stillborn idea. Actually, as a result in 1972 came from EFTA countries (which, by the way, and now live), and joined the EEC (the ancestor of today's EU). Entered, I must say, as much as the third time since Charles de Gaulle twice vetoed a request London. Nevertheless, Britain bargained themselves certain privileges in the EU. Britain is not part of the eurozone, has not signed the main part of the Schengen Agreement shall be much more selective immigration policy than France and others. EU Member States. In short, many Brits really nice idea to be somehow dependent on Brussels. And this can be explained as anything: even though natural-historical specificity of the country, though small-town nationalism of the Anglo-Saxons.

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Gavruss510 days ago

I am Scottish living now just south of the Scottish border and am very happy for Brexit as many others are hence the leave Europe campaign being a winner yes by a few BUT still a winner .

What bugged the hell out of me was David Cameron keepin saying about leaving bad for our financial (banking etc ) & businesses suffering ?? Not one mention really of the civilian publics standard of life ??

He mentioned about austerity etc anw what would happen BUT he seemed to forget that our Austerity/Recession was caused by corrupt thieving bankers stealing from the general public by stitching up libor rates etc ? Also the Icelandic banks scandal ? investing taxpayers money in banks in Iceland ? Gambling with our own money ? He would have been better off taking all our millions of taxes and betting it on a horse or a greyhound at the bookies ? There is more to life here in the UK than Londons financial hub ?? There is people living outside London !!

Also now maybe our fishing fleets can start earning a living again once the 200 mile exclusion zone is established for fishing vessels ? For too long fishermen have have had to dump dead fresh fish back into the ocean DESPITE people here in the UK starving ?

Eu telling us what power our vacuum cleaners re allowed to be ??? Also migrants allowed to freely pass through Europe right to the chanel tunnel and set up camps ??? We need to establish a very strong border control where Human Rights act crap doesn't touch the UK courts

This is a just a brief reason why we wanted out ! The UK has traded very successfully around the world for hundreds of years well before the EU/COMMON MARKET and will for the next few hundreds of years !!

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theingredient510 days ago

1. Lloyds of London controls Westminster. Insurance worldwide depends on the strength of the pound and it's Rothschild control since Waterloo.
2. Rhodes scholars know what sovereignty means
3. They continue to hold Belfast which demonstrates the political mentality.
4. The house of Lords only abolished hereditary honours in 2002.
5. David Cameron does not represent a majority government.

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braz68510 days ago

I believe that the main cause is the increasing spread of European immigration, to protect the British labor market and social and political interests.

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rageye01509 days ago

be told by some one I did not elect that is one and be told you have to have all the population of euro come to live in uk

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PhoenixCoyote505 days ago

Some don't like the idea of sending $19 billion dollars per year to the EU and receiving very little back. Others don't like the fact that their fishing rights in their own territorial waters, in certain areas were taken away from them, and given to other EU nations. Others don't like the fact that EU courts block the expulsion of Islamic fundamentalist hate preachers from the UK, even though UK courts ruled such actions legal. This also goes for the inability to send other non EU foreign born criminals back home. They also don't like how Germany has come to totally dominate the EU, as if it were the fourth reich. Many don't like the idea of simply giving up their identity for a nonexistent amorphous identity called "European", as Europe is a continent with many cultures. Plus you have the very long term tensions that have existed between continental Europe and the English for many centuries. This distrust was reflected in voting patterns seen throughout the UK, with the heavily dominated English areas voting massively for the leave side, except obviously for London, which is full of people who have mostly an internationalist outlook. Controlling immigration is also huge, especially given Germany's ability to push all sense of rational thought aside and say "come one, come all". Many don't like that they were always told the EU was simply a free trading zone, gradually over time antidemocratic forces within many EU nations began morphing it into something that more and more resembled a far more formalized nation state. The old adage of "good fences make for good neighbors" was also well in play. Sharing a fence or border with your neighbor does not destroy movement, nor does it foment hatred. Getting over old intertribal problems brings about peace, not open borders. There is also something to be said of maintaining independence and ideological diversity. As where the EU goes, so does its nation states. A few bad policies within the EU harms every EU state. The same cannot be said if they were completely independent entities.

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khaledmus486 days ago

we all ask the same questions, but in my view Brittan se itself mor wealthy especially in its currency difference comparing wit other European countries

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